QuoteJaxPort officials said that new milestone of 2016 for the terminal would dovetail with a scenario in which the federal government finishes deepening the ship channel the same year, allowing the giant ships deployed by Hanjin to sail up and down the river.
However, the deepening of the ship channel still must undergo an intensive study by the Army Corps of Engineers, slated for completion in 2014, and then win congressional authorization and funding. JaxPort will compete with other entities nationwide so there is no guarantee when a deeper channel for Jacksonville would get funding. The estimated cost would be around $500 million, with the federal government and the port authority sharing the expense.
The immediate impact of the latest delay is the port authority will pull the plug on plans to award a contract this year for design of the terminal. The authority instead would award that contract in 2013.
The timeline also highlights a change by Hanjin in its willingness to make Jacksonville an international cargo hub unless it has a deeper ship channel from the get-go.
full article: http://jacksonville.com/business/2011-01-24/story/hanjin-cargo-terminal-delayed-two-years-jaxport
All the right reasons...
I can live with it as long as we get the motherfriggin funding soon! Errr, I'm growing weary and just wish I could do something to bring back some bacon to NE FL.
Well...... At least that gives our inept government time to relocate the cruise terminal.
QuoteWell...... At least that gives our inept government time to relocate the cruise terminal.
The most pressing issue right now is 1.1 fixing the docks at Talleyrand, which are literally falling into the river. The money for the design work(while not enough to cover the required bulkhead repairs) should be earmarked for that ASAP, as in tomorrow.
Priority issue number 1.2 is fixing the navigational issue at Mile Point. Some half-assed bandaid the Corps of Engineers is proposing is a waste of time and resources at the present.
QuoteThe timeline also highlights a change by Hanjin in its willingness to make Jacksonville an international cargo hub unless it has a deeper ship channel from the get-go.
Anderson is going to have to wear the hell out of that rolodex to get the dredging study done quicker and try like hell to get funding done retroactively in the next funding rounds.
Anybody that wants to contact John Mica, Rick Scott, the next mayor and President Obama himself every day for the next 2 years about this very issue, has every right to do so... hint, hint.
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We better get ready or we'll be out of this game completely... and soon. Tear down the bridge and the power lines at Dames Point? IT COULD HAPPEN!
Absolutely as big as ANYTHING this city has before it, on the table, or has seen in decades, now is the time to
FIX THE CHANNEL AT MILE POINT
REPAIR TALLEYRAND
BUILD NEW HANJIN TERMINALS
CORRECT THE MULTI-RAILROAD ACCESS PROBLEM WHICH IS AS BIG AS THE "CONTAINER YARD AND CUT OFF."
MARKET THE HELL OUT OF THE CITY FOR MORE TERMINALS-WAREHOUSES-LOGISTICS OPERATORS
Right now we have the US House of representatives stacked in our favor, and like him or not, we have Rick Scott as governor who owes that seat to JACKSONVILLE as much as anywhere else in the state. MOVE ON IT!
Jacksonville, time to pull your head out!
OCKLAWAHA
I need to point out that I just sifted through the mayoral contributions. I posted them on the appropriate page for all to see (names we might all know anyway). Mullaney got the support of Kulik and Vinyard, both big port guys. There are a lot of Andersons, so I didn't even pause to look to see which Andersons. He could have gotten Paul Anderson, too.
This is something important to note. There is a reason why all the port guys are backing Mullaney. Just saying.
Ock, there is an important statistic missing from your table - air draft, distance from the water line to the highest point (not sure if that is the right term, but you get my point). Or the distance from the keel to the top - since you can adjust the "water line" through ballast or cargo load. With a 50' channel, and 175' clearance at the center of the DPBridge, you've got a little less than 225' to play with.
Don't think anyone is going to be tearing down the Dames Point Bridge or JEA lines anytime soon.
here's something the news media chose not to focus on.....apparently the potential cruise terminal relocation has also been delayed until the Hanjin thing gets figured out.
It's going to take a lot less dredging work and flow control at other competing ports ports than here. Our only advantage in the competition for the big ships is our transportation interconnectedness and unless we take care of that NOW and build out the necessary rail connections, the dredging money is going to go somewhere else.
We are NOT the best suited port for the biggest ships, but we could be the overall winner when the port and transportation infrastructure is taken into consideration.
Quote from: Charles Hunter on January 25, 2011, 06:32:17 AM
Ock, there is an important statistic missing from your table - air draft, distance from the water line to the highest point (not sure if that is the right term, but you get my point). Or the distance from the keel to the top - since you can adjust the "water line" through ballast or cargo load. With a 50' channel, and 175' clearance at the center of the DPBridge, you've got a little less than 225' to play with.
Don't think anyone is going to be tearing down the Dames Point Bridge or JEA lines anytime soon.
Agreed, I took it from an online site so it was already created.
The Panamax Ships will not go above 189' air draft (waterline to highest point) because they are restricted by the "Bridge of the America's," in Panama. Our bridge is 175' and that one is 190' so we need 15' additional feet of channel at the bridge to get these beasts under it.
I also agree that the bridge won't be coming down anytime soon, the power lines might be more negotiable. Our local "Authorities," have really gotten this FUBAR. OCKLAWAHA