Urban Core Construction Update - January 2011
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A look at the status of various projects under construction in and around Downtown Jacksonville during the month of January.
Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2011-jan-urban-core-construction-update-january-2011
Pictures taken early Saturday or Sunday morning I presume? Slow progress this month...
Between 7 and 8am Saturday.
Does anybody have an idea as to how costly it may have been to put the four "indented" (for lack of a better term from a non-architect) sections into the Courthouse?
You'd get better pictures of Wolfson from atop the Palm Ave parking garage.
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind when taking images next month.
Oasis, The GLBT Center of Northeast Florida have been remodeling the inside of a building directly across windixie off union street. You can't tell from the outside, but stuff is going on there.
Fresnius medical center might be the UGLIEST building I've ever seen. Also, as the courthouse nears completion, it is becoming more and more apparent how ridiculous the scale is. Look how it dwarfs all traffic signals and everything surrounding it.
QuoteFresnius medical center might be the UGLIEST building I've ever seen.
I'm suprised with the limited amount of windows that building has.
Quote from: thelakelander on January 17, 2011, 09:18:33 AM
QuoteFresnius medical center might be the UGLIEST building I've ever seen.
I'm suprised with the limited amount of windows that building has.
What a shame, too, because when the FDOT Overland Bridge project is completed, that intersection will become more prominent.
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It is the building opposite (below) the traffic signal symbol.
With any luck it will go out of business or move. That blank wall facing Atlantic is just asking to get tagged. Maybe we could commission another mural.
Jdog
Today at 08:41:41 AM
Does anybody have an idea as to how costly it may have been to put the four "indented" (for lack of a better term from a non-architect) sections into the Courthouse?
Dog, It'd be tough to put an exact number on it. Many factors short term and long term apply. For example, long term, money will be saved on Utility costs due to less square footage and also in terms of lighting, heating and the cooling of the space in that area due to the shade the overhang provides. Short term, however, yes, it cost more, mostly due to labor, some due to materials. Less concrete was used in the structure in that area, but a bit more concrete may have been required for the floor structures above to support the added stresses. More materials may have been required for plumbing and HVAC (continuous runs may have had to be rerouted, etc.). Even the design/ architecture fees might have increased to some degree, especially if this was a requested revision.
All in all, short term costs, I would give a wild guess of an extra 1-5 million, wholesale...lord knows what the city paid, lol.
You may not care for it much, but without it the lack of break in the facade would have made the building more bland then it already is. Although, it still is not finished yet, so I should save my opinions until later. That and the brand new "concrete" clad exterior is so clean, it will probably improve esthetically, actually, with a little grit and grime added. I'am very interested to see the lighting features to the exterior (and illuminating from the interior). It may or may not make the building a nice spectacle at night, as well. Big opportunity for that.
Wow, the courthouse is huge!
Also it's nice to see that Fresenius building all painted and fixed up. It was looking rough for awhile. Though it would have also been nice to see a couple windows added, but I can see why that didn't happen.
Quote from: Captain Zissou on January 17, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
That blank wall facing Atlantic is just asking to get tagged. Maybe we could commission another mural.
Great idea!!!
The first person sentenced to jail in that courthouse should be its architect. I'd recommend a life sentence for Crimes Against Design.
Wow, still no talk about the spot between Mark's and the tattoo shop? Is it some deep cover FBI project?
As for the cut outs on the courthouse.... i don't like them, but they're necessary. Think of how boring the structure would be otherwise. It would be 400 feet of uninterrupted plain wall. You'd think that having to create giant cut outs to prevent the courthouse from looking terrible would be a strong indication that the design was bad.
Quote from: comncense on January 17, 2011, 11:02:58 AM
Wow, still no talk about the spot between Mark's and the tattoo shop? Is it some deep cover FBI project?
I've heard the building's owner is doing necessary maintenance to the facade.
I love that the biggest downtown project in years (decade?) is a courthouse. That should tell you something right there.
Wolfson's is definitely going vertical, although it appears the holiday and/or weather has stopped construction for today. I got a good look at it this morning from the garage.
Quote from: Jason on January 17, 2011, 02:45:00 PM
Wolfson's is definitely going vertical, although it appears the holiday and/or weather has stopped construction for today. I got a good look at it this morning from the garage.
..........by around 70 to 80 feet if you count the caissons and
red iron in place.
Anyone know when the Friendship Fountain is supposed to be finished?
Am I the only one who looks at the courthouse project as a glass half-full? I'm the first to admit I'm a tad biased, as I work in the legal world and visit the courthouse at least once a day. The old one is a blight that needs to come down. It's ugly, dysfunctional, and ruins the booming vibe that's going down on East Bay Street. I DO agree that the design is crap and we missed a real opportunity to put up a nice edifice downtown. That being said, I like the look of the courthouse from the highway. Also, it's a great opportunity to pull down the old courthouse and enhance East Bay Street with something genuinely nice or needed. Whether the city or developers will actually do something with the space, who knows, but at least it forces the opportunity.
Quote from: dougskiles on January 17, 2011, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on January 17, 2011, 09:18:33 AM
QuoteFresnius medical center might be the UGLIEST building I've ever seen.
I'm suprised with the limited amount of windows that building has.
What a shame, too, because when the FDOT Overland Bridge project is completed, that intersection will become more prominent.
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It is the building opposite (below) the traffic signal symbol.
Doug, where did you get this image? Looks to be a more recent version than the ones we saw at the public forum a couple of months ago in the school board building.
Quote from: Fallen Buckeye on January 17, 2011, 08:16:08 PM
Anyone know when the Friendship Fountain is supposed to be finished?
Spoke to a friend over this past weekend whose company is contracted to put the lighting and fountain system in for Friendship Fountain. They are local and have also been contracted to do the fountain work on the NY WTC project according to him. He told me the project was set to finish late Spring of this year. He also informed me that once complete, it was truly going to be a spectacle and a beacon for the Southbank. He also said the City desperately wants the project complete well in time for the next football season (assuming there is one and no lockout) in order to be a showcase point for network footage on whatever national game(s) the Jags have, FL/GA and Gator Bowl.
Shots of the Wolfson's Adult Tower construction from about an hour ago from atop the parking garage...
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As if downtown really needs another sandwich shop and a park. (sigh) what else can you do? What's listed is what's going on and I guess it's better than nothing at all.
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I heard that the current courthouse and the city hall annex building are both set to come down sometime after the new courthouse opens.
I wonder if there's any possible way the skyway can go down bay st. I looked at bing maps and parts of the sidewalk look too narrow for the support pylons.
But think of it, the location of the city hall annex building would be a perfect place for a skyway station! It's right between the bars and taxis can sit and wait for costumers, they don't have to call and wait as they can just go across the street.
nice picture of the crane! wish we had more of those Downtown!
Quote from: urbaknight on January 19, 2011, 03:39:09 PM
I heard that the current courthouse and the city hall annex building are both set to come down sometime after the new courthouse opens.
I don't think that has been decided yet
where is the urban core destructions update - January 2011?
Thanks for the aerial shots Jason! (and thanks Ennis for your monthly construction contributions!)
I hope we'll see something more exciting within a few months. As little as there is going on in Jax, there isn't much more going on in Atlanta...
Moving on up!
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Anyone know what is going on at the space next to Dive Bar i noticed a big tarp over front of the building?
That's mentioned somewhere in the thread. According to that poster, just routine maintenance