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Title: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Dapperdan on December 29, 2010, 01:27:08 PM
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/429812/tania-ganguli/2010-12-29/jaguars-quarterback-david-garrard-have-surgery-tomorrow

What a  strange time to have surgery.He was well enough to play las week. Anyone else sense something else is going on?
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: JMac on December 29, 2010, 01:31:44 PM
looks to me like Del Rio shut him down
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Shwaz on December 29, 2010, 02:03:05 PM
Staging surgery to cover up benching a player.... sounds a little far fetched. This is the same coach that cut Leftwich a week before the 2007 season. With the team still having a chance at the playoffs no coach would pull their QB for the final game.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: duvaldude08 on December 29, 2010, 02:22:31 PM
^^ This sounds strange to me. We havent heard anything about the garrad finger since the night at that game, and he showed no signs of having problems sunday. And Mojo being out again is bummer. But Id rather him get better than risk seriously hurting hisself. Im sure mojo will get better during the off season with no problem.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: AmyLynne on December 29, 2010, 03:43:20 PM
After the interception this week, David was holding his fingers on the side line.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: duvaldude08 on December 29, 2010, 03:51:08 PM
^^^yeah I just read Jaguars.com. hopefully since Trent has time to really practice and get familiar with the recievers, hopefully he can pull out a win for us. The Titans game wasnt a fair evaluation for him.  He was just thrown out there unexpectally and wasnt familiar with the receivers, plays, routes, etc. And hopefully Rashard jennings can break loose this week. This should be interesting to wacth.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: fsujax on December 29, 2010, 04:02:15 PM
maybe a sign of things to come???? we shall see.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Jaxson on December 29, 2010, 07:19:14 PM
Could it be that, after he was benched, that Garrard decided to schedule the needed surgery? 
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: ProjectMaximus on December 30, 2010, 01:30:56 AM
Quote from: Jaxson on December 29, 2010, 07:19:14 PM
Could it be that, after he was benched, that Garrard decided to schedule the needed surgery? 

I highly doubt he was benched. But yes, this is a possibilty.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Shwaz on December 30, 2010, 09:09:01 AM
QuoteGarrard isn’t sure exactly when or how the injury occurred, but it was in the game in Indianapolis two Sundays ago and it resulted in ligament being torn from the bone.

QuoteThe ligament wouldn’t allow his finger to bend normally. A metal pin will be inserted into the finger and rehab will require two months of rest.

Quote“I can’t do anything with it,” he said when asked about his ability to grip the ball. “The finger won’t bend around like a normal finger, it just kind of bends up. It’s weird. You can definitely tell something needs to be done with it. I’ve been grossing the guys out around here with it, too.”


Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Wacca Pilatka on December 30, 2010, 10:18:22 AM
Quote from: AmyLynne on December 29, 2010, 03:43:20 PM
After the interception this week, David was holding his fingers on the side line.

He did the same during the Indianapolis game.

I think all the speculation about a cover-up for a benching is off base.  Garrard has his shortcomings but there's no way he doesn't generally give us a better chance to win than Edwards.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: subro on December 30, 2010, 03:10:05 PM
Speaking of Jaguar quarterbacks...

Jets backup QB Brunell expecting to play vs. Bills

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/brunell_expecting_to_play_G1XAxW4G1XuYkhb6ZyMGTN

If sore-shouldered Mark Sanchez starts Sunday for the playoff-bound Jets, he likely won't finish the game, meaning his backup and tutor, Mark Brunell, finally would get his first extended playing time for Gang Green.

"I couldn't tell if [I'll get] three snaps or three quarters, I really don't know," said the 40-year-old Brunell, who has thrown just one pass all season for the Jets but is in line for extended action against Buffalo. "It'll be fun to be out there.

"This week is different because I'm pretty confident I will get to play," he said. "The previous 15 games, you're not quite sure. You're just kind of waiting. At least this game I have an idea that I'll get some time. But how much, I don't know. But I'll get to step on the field at least."


It has been a while. Brunell, who spent a dozen of his 18 NFL seasons as a starter. He has been the veteran graybeard helping lead Mark Sanchez through his growth process, but he has played just two series, in a 38-14 rout of the same Bills back on Oct. 3, and completing a seven-yard pass to tight end Ben Hartsock.

Because the Jets (10-5) already have clinched a postseason berth last Sunday and Sanchez suffering from what reportedly could be minor cartilage damage in his right shoulder, Brunell could play most -- or all -- of the game.

"I haven't decided if [Sanchez] will play X-amount of plays, or he'll play at all," coach Rex Ryan said. "Maybe he'll play some, but we'll see. I don't see him [playing the entire game]."

Sanchez, who has played well the past two games despite the injury, said he is confident Ryan will make the right decision.

"[Ryan's] got a good feeling for things," he said. "He knows what he wants from us.He added that if he doesn't play he will "be Brunell and Kellen's [Clemens] biggest cheerleader."

Brunell started just one game last year in New Orleans as Drew Brees' backup, and none the two seasons before that, but he says drawing on his vast experience as a starter will make it easy for him to step in if needed.

"This is my 18th year," Brunell said. "I've been there before, played a lot. That's just the role I'm in. You've got to embrace it. This is my role on this football team.

"It's a supporting role," he said. "You don't get very many reps, you get a lot of scout team reps, but you have to be ready. Mentally you have to put in as much time as the starter, because you're not going to get to run the plays. I think having a guy with experience makes that as little easier. A guy that's played a lot doesn't need 100 reps to step in there and do well."

brian.lewis@nypost.com





Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: duvaldude08 on January 02, 2011, 07:09:32 PM
Yeah Garrad was out and it was obvious. LOL 8-8 and 2nd in the division is better than last year. But Im sure the cry babies are coming to the forums soon so I will have my pacifiers ready. In the end the colts won, so the outcome of todays game meant nothing but an 8-8 record or 9-7 record.

One of to things need to happen next season

1. replace garrad
or
2. fire del rio for not replacing garrad
;D
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Dapperdan on January 02, 2011, 07:23:31 PM
I doubt Garrard could have saved that game. Our defense was terrible and the team as a whole lacked any energy at all. The entire secondary is crap and I am having my doubts about the front line since they have been gashed the whole last part of this season by huge run plays. It is time for Jack to go. There is no way around it. His building decade has come and gone and it is time to mix it up with a new coach and some fresh ideas. I am tired of being mediocre at best.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: duvaldude08 on January 02, 2011, 08:04:53 PM
^^^ Oh yeah lets not forget our god awful defense. If our defense was doing their job, we would have had a chance at winning. Given the circumstances, Our offense was decent. And Garrad has to go. He is not a consistent QB. And Del Rio is too nice. This team needs DISCIPLINE. That is one thing I truely miss about Coughlin. The things Del Rio gives funny looks about, Coughlin would be ripping their heads off. Firing Coughlin was the DUMBST thing weve done thus far. He took us to the play offs FOUR YEARS STRAIGHT. And We had two bad season's and canned him? That was DEAD wrong.

FYI- on the bright side, things could be alot worse. There are some teams who have been around for 40 years and have only been to the playoffs a hand full of times. The Jags are 15 years old and we have made six apperences thus far. Hell the Texans havent touched the playoffs YET. Imagine how they feel! We just gotta get back on track.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on January 02, 2011, 09:03:35 PM
1. Defense number 1 priority
2. Need a real Head Coach, time for Del Rio to go
3 QB/yes we can win with DG, but DG gets you 7-8 at wins at best.

What a pathetic way to end  a season that really had some fire to it for a moment. Same ole Jaguar team led by Del Rio. Anyway it was fun while it lasted if only for a moment. Get well MJD, Go Jags see ya next year.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: duvaldude08 on January 03, 2011, 01:31:25 AM
^^^I agree. It was an exciting season. Had way more fire than last season.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Jason on January 03, 2011, 10:08:29 AM
It was a very exciting season!  I'm not totally suprised we finished the way we did, however, things were looking MUCH better 2 weeks ago even after the loss to the Colts.  Kampman has been sorely missed....

Next year we have a healthy MJD, Kampman, Miller, Durant, and possibly a new QB coupled with some renovations on the secondary and O-line... Helluva team!
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Traveller on January 03, 2011, 10:25:23 AM
Just saw the list of Jaguars' opponents for 2011.  Holy cow!  At least the Colts' schedule is just as difficult, if not more so (they play the Patriots and Chiefs instead of the Jets and Chargers, respectively).  The division title has to be the goal once more, as a wild card berth against that schedule will be extremely difficult without significant improvement from this season.

HOME
Indianapolis (10-6)
Tennessee (6-10)
Houston (6-10)
Baltimore (12-4)
Cincinnati (4-12)
New Orleans (11-5)
Tampa Bay (10-6)
San Diego (9-7)

AWAY
Indianapolis (10-6)
Tennessee (6-10)
Houston (6-10)
Cleveland (5-11)
Pittsburgh (12-4)
Atlanta (13-3)
Carolina (2-14)
N.Y. Jets (11-5)

http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-01-02/story/jaguars-opponents-2011-season (http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-01-02/story/jaguars-opponents-2011-season)
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: duvaldude08 on January 03, 2011, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Traveller on January 03, 2011, 10:25:23 AM
Just saw the list of Jaguars' opponents for 2011.  Holy cow!  At least the Colts' schedule is just as difficult, if not more so (they play the Patriots and Chiefs instead of the Jets and Chargers, respectively).  The division title has to be the goal once more, as a wild card berth against that schedule will be extremely difficult without significant improvement from this season.

HOME
Indianapolis (10-6)
Tennessee (6-10)
Houston (6-10)
Baltimore (12-4)
Cincinnati (4-12)
New Orleans (11-5)
Tampa Bay (10-6)
San Diego (9-7)

AWAY
Indianapolis (10-6)
Tennessee (6-10)
Houston (6-10)
Cleveland (5-11)
Pittsburgh (12-4)
Atlanta (13-3)
Carolina (2-14)
N.Y. Jets (11-5)

http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-01-02/story/jaguars-opponents-2011-season (http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-01-02/story/jaguars-opponents-2011-season)

The only games that cocern me are the Saints, Jets, Steelers and Ravens. The rest of the schedule is winniable. If some major things change next season, I could see us being at atleast 10-6 at best. All we need is a defense that plays and a QB that does not throw so many interceptions.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: civil42806 on January 03, 2011, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: duvaldude08 on January 03, 2011, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: Traveller on January 03, 2011, 10:25:23 AM
Just saw the list of Jaguars' opponents for 2011.  Holy cow!  At least the Colts' schedule is just as difficult, if not more so (they play the Patriots and Chiefs instead of the Jets and Chargers, respectively).  The division title has to be the goal once more, as a wild card berth against that schedule will be extremely difficult without significant improvement from this season.

HOME
Indianapolis (10-6)
Tennessee (6-10)
Houston (6-10)
Baltimore (12-4)
Cincinnati (4-12)
New Orleans (11-5)
Tampa Bay (10-6)
San Diego (9-7)

AWAY
Indianapolis (10-6)
Tennessee (6-10)
Houston (6-10)
Cleveland (5-11)
Pittsburgh (12-4)
Atlanta (13-3)
Carolina (2-14)
N.Y. Jets (11-5)

http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-01-02/story/jaguars-opponents-2011-season (http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-01-02/story/jaguars-opponents-2011-season)

The only games that cocern me are the Saints, Jets, Steelers and Ravens. The rest of the schedule is winniable. If some major things change next season, I could see us being at atleast 10-6 at best. All we need is a defense that plays and a QB that does not throw so many interceptions.

How about a new head coach!
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on January 03, 2011, 03:10:49 PM
Thats a tough schedule. I know the Colts are glad they face the Chiefs instead of the Bolts. Jags are gonna have to bring it next season. Will know where this team really is next season.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: duvaldude08 on January 03, 2011, 03:54:02 PM
^^ I know right. I looked at the schedule and almost fell out my chiar.  HOPEFULLY things change in our favor.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: KenFSU on January 03, 2011, 04:20:45 PM
Albert Einstein defined insanity as "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Just sayin...
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: 77danj7 on January 03, 2011, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 03, 2011, 04:20:45 PM
Albert Einstein defined insanity as "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Just sayin...

Speaking of doing the same thing over and over...it looks like Jack Del Rio is safe.  Press conference at 5:30.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on January 03, 2011, 05:15:23 PM
WW said he expected playoffs maybe he meant Madden. Jags are going no where and a sub 500 season seems to be looming for next season. Hope I'm wrong though. Never been to Charlotte, but that may be my first away game for the Jags as I have a cousin that lives there. Well my Sundays are free now.
Title: Re: Garrard Out as Starter for Sunday
Post by: comncense on January 03, 2011, 05:19:59 PM
Yeah if you thought this season was bad, wait till next season. The reality of the matter is that with or without Jack, it's gonna be a tough season next year based on the list of teams we play. I really hope that we as a community continue to support the team either way. I'd hate to see us having issues with blackouts again. At least we have some exciting teams to play in our Home games.