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Title: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: fieldafm on December 11, 2010, 11:02:01 AM
They've been all over the place.  Lots of jet engine noise has been coming out of NAS too for what seems to be for the last week... anybody know the deal?  Is NAS getting a new wing attachment of fighter jets???
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: BridgeTroll on December 11, 2010, 11:24:59 AM
They are in town for a few weeks for training...
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: BridgeTroll on December 11, 2010, 11:27:48 AM
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-12-11/story/jacksonville-journal-extra-jet-noise-visiting-detachment

QuoteJacksonville Journal: Extra jet noise from visiting detachment
Posted: December 11, 2010 - 12:00am

Extra jet noise from visiting detachment

Residents living around Jacksonville Naval Air Station have new neighbors until Tuesday: the Navy's latest electronic counter-measure planes, base spokeswoman Miriam Gallet said.

A 10-plane detachment of EA-18 Growlers from the "Vikings" of VAQ-129 has been staging from the base since Nov. 30. The Growler is similar to the two-seat version of the F/A-18 Super Hornet jet fighter and likely accounts for the extra noise some residents have reported recently, she said.

The squadron is based at Whidbey Island, Wash., and its pilots are in Jacksonville to perform familiarity flights to various military bases in the Southeast, including Patrick Air Force Base in Brevard County and Pensacola Naval Air Station, Gallet said.
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: ChriswUfGator on December 11, 2010, 11:32:34 AM
I get a nice view of NAS JAX from my porch, so from my perspective these guys have been putting on a free airshow for me all week. I'm certainly not complaing!
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: CS Foltz on December 11, 2010, 03:00:33 PM
Small price to pay for being prepared! Does not happen all of the time and it will go back to, what is normal for this part of the world!
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: heights unknown on December 11, 2010, 04:48:50 PM
Getting ready to strafe and attack downtown; didn't you know?

"HU"
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: floridaforester on December 11, 2010, 06:00:47 PM
No such thing as an austerity plan for the military.  Just keep growing it more and more and justify those expenditures with more overseas campaigns. Its a vicious cycle that Eisenhower warned us about.
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: 02roadking on December 11, 2010, 07:26:28 PM
Growler flyover at the Jags game Sunday
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: fieldafm on December 11, 2010, 07:37:03 PM
Thanks Bridge.  Didn't realize they weren't F-18s.  It's been nice watching them fly around. 

Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 11, 2010, 07:39:14 PM
Quote from: floridaforester on December 11, 2010, 06:00:47 PM
No such thing as an austerity plan for the military.  Just keep growing it more and more and justify those expenditures with more overseas campaigns. Its a vicious cycle that Eisenhower warned us about.

OR WE COULD SIT AND WAIT FOR ONE OF THESE FOOLS TO DELIVER ON THEIR PROMISES...

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OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Ernest Street on December 11, 2010, 08:44:39 PM
I have heard some ground Afterburner testing lately...and that noise just excites me. ;D
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 11, 2010, 09:50:34 PM
Was in the park with my grandson today and he heard the buzz of a prop job... Boy was it! A silver P51 flying south along the St. Johns River south of Green Cove. Cool as hell because he wasn't too high... Wonder where THAT bird lives?

OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: NotNow on December 11, 2010, 09:56:29 PM
That is the sound of freedom!  

Forester, when Eisenhower gave that speech, defense spending was more than 50% of the Federal budget. Last year, with two active shooting wars, defense spending was 19% of the Federal budget.  I'm with Ock on this one, speak softly and carry a BIG stick.
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 11, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
(http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/bb-61-8505379.jpg)

Yep, HELL I'm stil pissed that we retired the Battleships... build new ones... ask ANY Arab if they know any words in English and every one of them can say "IOWA" and "NEW JERSEY".  They might not be high tech, but for a shock and awe there is NOTHING like those 16 inch guns tossing Volkswagen size shells 23 miles out. It's like the gift from hell that Lucifer himself would duck. 

You realize you might have just come across ONE THING that you and Stephendare probably agree on! 


OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Ernest Street on December 11, 2010, 10:31:39 PM
Ock, There are several Full sized.(not stunt 3/4) vintage P-51's at Kermit Weeks' Private Airport south of Disney on I-4. it might have been one of them.
http://www.fantasyofflight.com


We did a Laser show there for his grand opening in 1995 and he had a stunning collection of stuff in the garages that he let us explore...
WWII Spotlights next to Stearman biplanes,next to original Willy's Jeep..you get the picture..There was an original Japanese "ZERO" in a hallway!..with the rising sun still visible on the side albeit faded! I swear it could only hold a 5' man and no more..
When we were loading out the next day, we had the pleasure of watching a Gentleman pull up to his Mustang in a Jaguar and pull the exhaust plugs out.
That got my attention.
This V-12 Packard motor...just started and Idling,was vibrating our truck sides so we couldn't talk..When he raised the RPM's and taxied  his bird,it was 5 times louder with those open pipes. take off and his circles were awesome. This is Good Stuff if you ever get the pleasure of getting close to a Rolls Royce Merlin V-12..or this Packard licenced copy.
Even if you are a Peace Advocate this is Awesome Engineering for 1940's.Rumored to have been fast tracked to 120 days development.
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: ChriswUfGator on December 11, 2010, 11:31:31 PM
Ock, by the time of their final retirement, the Iowas were pretty damned technically advanced indeed. At least as advanced as any other surface cruiser, and with a shitload more firepower. Their problem was budgetary, they are gigantic and the funding doesn't exist to have a 1k+ man crew on anything but an aircraft carrier. Although moving forward, one has to wonder whether when the world is going to fleets that emphasize airstrike ability with limited ship to ship combat ability whether a ship with 3' of armor plating on the decks and hullsides and some big ass guns wouldn't be quite effective. It's hard to sink an aircraft carrier with another aircraft carrier...fighter jets can defend as well as attack. Missile and torpedo countermeasures are pretty advanced nowadays too. The Iowas are too large and expensive to be practical, but a smaller ship witn the same capabilities would be pretty effective against modern navies, at least from this layman's point of view.
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: stjr on December 12, 2010, 12:01:01 AM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on December 11, 2010, 09:50:34 PM
Was in the park with my grandson today and he heard the buzz of a prop job... Boy was it! A silver P51 flying south along the St. Johns River south of Green Cove. Cool as hell because he wasn't too high... Wonder where THAT bird lives?

OCKLAWAHA

Ock, there is a good chance this is the plane you saw, owned by local citizen David Marco.  He has flown it at the Blue Angels air show the last few years including in October as pictured below:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/mdl_photography/5164812329/
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: cityimrov on December 12, 2010, 12:02:42 AM
The best military weapons we have today are very boring.  A barrage of missiles fired from a boring location can take out any battleships out here today. 

If you want something cool, there's Hollywood!  Even real explosions aren't really that interesting compared to the stuff Hollywood makes.
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 12, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Ernest Street on December 11, 2010, 10:31:39 PM
Ock, There are several Full sized.(not stunt 3/4) vintage P-51's at Kermit Weeks' Private Airport south of Disney on I-4. it might have been one of them.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LqkWPkewJ2c/SRSRBUP3cbI/AAAAAAAAADI/ZydRvuhm1eY/s320/tanques.jpg)

Think it was probably the Jacksonville plane posted by stjr. Don't know what that Packard drinks but the old Thunderbolt that was over in Herlong when I was a kid went through 2 gallons a minute! A real Zero would be a treat to see. I was walking in a very pretty quiet tree lined neighborhood dropping off an Express Mail one day when I about jumped out of my skin.  3 formations of 3 planes each... Imitation Zeke, Kate, Oscars, Betty, Claude, Tony, the whole damn Japanese family right over the tree tops. My dad was a WWII pacific veteran, and I never thought it would effect me like it did but it absolutely gave me a chill. Sort of like the time I was in Bogota while M19 shelled the city from Cerro de Monserrate!  Soldiers came rolling around the corner in a line of APC'S shouting to me to "Get that car (Mercedes) out of sight and take cover the Communists are coming!" Echos of good ol CHE whom I would have shot myself had I ever had the chance.  

Absolutely another WORLD CLASS museum - attraction that should by all rights be in Jacksonville. Damn, Orlando will dig a F***ING canal for the USS Iowa before we move on our little tin-can.


OCKLAWAHA



Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: cityimrov on December 12, 2010, 01:21:29 PM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on December 12, 2010, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Ernest Street on December 11, 2010, 10:31:39 PM
Ock, There are several Full sized.(not stunt 3/4) vintage P-51's at Kermit Weeks' Private Airport south of Disney on I-4. it might have been one of them.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LqkWPkewJ2c/SRSRBUP3cbI/AAAAAAAAADI/ZydRvuhm1eY/s320/tanques.jpg)

Think it was probably the Jacksonville plane posted by stjr. Don't know what that Packard drinks but the old Thunderbolt that was over in Herlong when I was a kid went through 2 gallons a minute! A real Zero would be a treat to see. I was walking in a very pretty quiet tree lined neighborhood dropping off an Express Mail one day when I about jumped out of my skin.  3 formations of 3 planes each... Imitation Zeke, Kate, Oscars, Betty, Claude, Tony, the whole damn Japanese family right over the tree tops. My dad was a WWII pacific veteran, and I never thought it would effect me like it did but it absolutely gave me a chill. Sort of like the time I was in Bogota while M19 shelled the city from Cerro de Monserrate!  Soldiers came rolling around the corner in a line of APC'S shouting to me to "Get that car (Mercedes) out of sight and take cover the Communists are coming!" Echos of good ol CHE whom I would have shot myself had I ever had the chance.  

Absolutely another WORLD CLASS museum - attraction that should by all rights be in Jacksonville. Damn, Orlando will dig a F***ING canal for the USS Iowa before we move on our little tin-can.


OCKLAWAHA


Why don't we have a large scale war museum here?  We're the center of "military patriotism" here and a museum would attract a ton of visitors.  We could even piggyback of Florida's marketing for tourist and have real tourist from all over the country come to this city!  People would have a reason to stop by Jacksonville other than it just being a speed bump to Orlando & Miami.  

Imagine the amount of people we would attract for the "Drive a Real Tank around our Obstacle Course."

Anyone here ready to start one?
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Ernest Street on December 12, 2010, 04:47:26 PM
Let's start bugging Kermit Weeks to open up some expansion space at Cecil!
Maybe it will turn into a smaller branch of his museum?
He could have his Naval collection here.
In his blog he is talking about a High speed train.

 http://blog.kermitweeks.com/

BTW.I was one of the Laser operators at his opening Party in 1996..they had night re-enactments of bombing and strafing with Pyro technics on the ground and yes they had the Firework Acrobatic Plane that had at least a 30 minute supply of Fireworks strapped to the wings.


Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: fieldafm on December 13, 2010, 10:59:35 PM
These boys did the flyover for the Jags game Sunday.  Not quite the show the Florida Air National Guard puts on, but those Navy flyboys rarely can hold a candle to the ol' Country Club Boys of FANG.  ;)
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Coolyfett on December 14, 2010, 03:22:39 AM
Go!
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: stjr on December 14, 2010, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: fieldafm on December 13, 2010, 10:59:35 PM
These boys did the flyover for the Jags game Sunday.  Not quite the show the Florida Air National Guard puts on, but those Navy flyboys rarely can hold a candle to the ol' Country Club Boys of FANG.  ;)

Someone needs to ask the Jags to implore our military friends to fly down the center of the field or at least once in a while over the east stands.  There are some of us in the west stands that have bad site lines when they tend to fly almost directly over the top of the west stands.  The B-52 pilot did a nice down the middle flyover.  Hate not getting the full view of these birds.   ;)
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Ernest Street on December 14, 2010, 08:36:23 PM
I'm sorry I missed that one!
A B52 Flyover is definitely a whole stadium flyover! That's a BIG jet.
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: RiversideLoki on December 15, 2010, 12:43:06 PM
The flyover for the Jags/Raiders game was cool, but they didn't line up on the stadium very well and ended up flying over the west side of the stadium. Had to lean out to see them, but I love the growlers. Fully loaded they just look mean!
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: Non-RedNeck Westsider on December 15, 2010, 01:20:43 PM
Quote from: RiversideLoki on December 15, 2010, 12:43:06 PM
The flyover for the Jags/Raiders game was cool, but they didn't line up on the stadium very well and ended up flying over the west side of the stadium. Had to lean out to see them, but I love the growlers. Fully loaded they just look mean!

I love it when my growler is fully loaded, too.  Mmmmmm Beer.
Title: Re: Anybody know why all these F18's have been flying around here lately?
Post by: RiversideLoki on December 16, 2010, 08:58:19 AM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on December 15, 2010, 01:20:43 PM
I love it when my growler is fully loaded, too.  Mmmmmm Beer.

BCB HIGHFIVE