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Title: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: sheclown on December 08, 2010, 06:31:27 PM
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/IM001908-1.jpg)

..all that is left.
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: sheclown on December 08, 2010, 06:34:07 PM
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Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: Springfielder on December 08, 2010, 07:23:18 PM
the neighborhood is just being chipped away, one demo at a time  >:(
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: ChriswUfGator on December 08, 2010, 07:48:01 PM
So what happened to COJ's promise of a moratorium on demolitions? Didn't last long, did it?
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: Timkin on December 08, 2010, 07:54:46 PM
Gosh! That building did not look that bad.   COJ promises????   Promises made, promises broken. 
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: iloveionia on December 08, 2010, 09:07:05 PM
Again. 
Had the building been properly secured (and in this case the roof repaired,) it would not have deteriorated as it did. 

This property is a bit "unique" as moved said, not technically part of the historic district.  For whatever reason, Main Street was chopped out of much of it back in the day.

I noticed at Thanksgiving "someone" had already started to demolish it so to speak. 

The city had halted demos, except in emergency situations, this one?  Emergency? Don't think so, out of historic district (chopped out,) I believe that's why.  It went to HPC recently.
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 08, 2010, 09:07:55 PM
* IMAGINE * JACKSONVILLE *

(http://www.oldgas.com/info/images/redcr1a.jpg)

(http://www.retrogaspumps.com/wp-content/gallery/pump-pictures/Retro2.jpg)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1416/687470141_d205764bdb.jpg)

(https://www.storesonlinepro.com/files/1558584/uploaded/reduced%20store%20front.JPG)

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1180/604067338_60258c5323.jpg)

(http://www.oldgas.com/info/images/portsig1.jpg)

(http://www.texasescapes.com/Route66/Images/Route66TexasShamrockConocoGasStation108NoelKerns.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/Peg_Leghcf/Old2DGas2DStation2D01.jpg)

(http://galenfry.com/eh60/S3-068.jpg)

(http://prairiepathways.com/gallery2/main.php)

(http://www.gaspumps.info/gallery/d/4620-2/parlaypumps2.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/121971571_d159a92c2c_z.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3616/3484775966_42e0f4888e.jpg)

(http://image09.webshots.com/9/3/92/64/110939264vhEJqT_ph.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2269/2590363701_87cda71dda_z.jpg)

(http://www.kardude.com/images/Phillips_66_station._Route_66._McLean_Texas_02.jpg)

(http://esf-protrainer.com/Chem-Oil/ABigShellStation.jpg)

(http://www.novaresource.org/gallery1/62dannyd1.jpg)

(http://images.travelpod.com/users/schwanman/2.1266964137.amboy-ca-an-oasis-in-the-desert.jpg)
Roy's? Ah hell I know it isn't so pretty, but IT IS the whole town of Amboy California on Route 66, and just around the corner from Ocklawaha's Desert Hideaway.

(http://ih1.redbubble.net/work.3035547.2.flat,550x550,075,f.old-gas-station-air-pump-at-abandoned-filling-station.jpg)


...AND IN JACKSONVILLE?

* IDIOTS! *



OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: Timkin on December 08, 2010, 09:38:32 PM
If its Historic , It is either endangered or gone already. Way to go Jacksonvillle!
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 08, 2010, 10:19:06 PM
THE JACKSONVILLE SONG...

"Don't Worry - If there's a hell below we're all gonna go"
By the Late Great Curtis Mayfield



Sisters, brothers and the whities
Blacks and the crackers
Police and their backers
They're all political actors

Hurry
People running from their worries
While the judge and the juries
Dictate the law that's partly flaw
Cat calling, love balling, fussing and cussing
Top billing now is killing
For peace no-one is willing
Kind of make you get that feeling

Everybody smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke
Use the pill and the dope, dope, dope, dope, dope
Educated fools
From uneducated schools
Pimping people is the rule
Polluted water in the pool
And Nixon talking about don't worry, worry, worry, worry
He says don't worry, worry, worry, worry
He says don't worry, worry, worry, worry
He says don't worry, worry, worry, worry

But they don't know
There can be no show
And if there's a hell below
We're all gonna go, go, go, go, go

Everybody's praying
And everybody's saying
But when come time to do
Everybody's laying

Just talking about don't worry, worry, worry, worry
They say don't worry, worry, worry, worry
They say don't worry, worry, worry, worry
They say don't worry, worry, worry, worry

Hear it for yourself at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7E7fhgO0LI



OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: Ocklawaha on December 08, 2010, 11:17:48 PM
What might have been using our own local history?

A JACKSONVILLE - COULD OF, WOULD OF, SHOULD OF!


(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2532/4192327133_87d63ccbc7_z.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2418/2129437915_43849faf84.jpg)

(http://k41.pbase.com/g3/53/660853/2/66761126.nzoUbBt6.jpg)

(http://www.globesandsigns.com/Dixie%20Vim%20Ethyl.jpg)

(http://photos.liveauctioneers.com/houses/greatgatsbys/23161/0147_1_lg.jpg)

(http://prockscrocksantiquestoneware.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/antique-texaco-gas-oil-sign-3.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2614/4060926001_5dc68fa34a.jpg)

(http://iheartatlas.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/sinclair_sign.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2503/3841304624_9a975e6fae.jpg)

(http://www.galesgifts.com/images/_products/galesgifts/34-830_Shell_Gas_&_Oil_Tin_Sign.jpg)

(http://cdn3.iofferphoto.com/img/item/111/636/127/KG4l.jpg)

SEE? Bet you didn't think we had any history around here huh? ...In case your wondering what the hell the streetcar guy is doing with all these old gas station photos and signs, keep in mind my family is from the "Oil Patch..."  We could always get oil out of the well, but getting water, now THAT was a job!

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/402103539_0319eaafaf.jpg)
Ahh, the Oil Patch...  where you can see for 5 days straight ahead!

OCKLAWAHA
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: Springfielder on December 09, 2010, 05:49:07 AM
This was at the request of the owner, which is why it happened so quickly...and it technically wasn't in the historic district. Still...I hate to see yet another building taken down
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: uptowngirl on December 09, 2010, 07:27:40 AM
This owner has several vacant properties. One that was acrossthe street from us had the cops called on it constantly.I remember one instance the nephew came over and no one was home so he dropped pants and did his business in the front yard,then argued when the cops showed up that he just had to go,what the hell was their problem.  Another family member threatened to kill the dogs on the block, just a real nice bunch of boys. I would look for more demolitions on these properties....
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: wsansewjs on December 09, 2010, 08:13:47 AM
Quote from: movedsouth on December 08, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
<jedi wave>
there is no formal track.


I see what you did there. -superglares-

-Josh
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: strider on December 09, 2010, 09:49:08 AM
The reason this area was "carved out" of the Historic District was to eliminate the property owners that did not want to be part of the historic district and had the power to perhaps prevent the area from gaining that designation.  I have also been told that the overlay could be used to require that the property owners in the excluded zones follow the guidelines anyway, but as they can not get the benefits, that is perhaps not really enforceable in the end.  It wasn't in this case.

The owner, whether you like her or not, did do the right thing by the building most of the time. It was reasonably secured the entire time I have been around Springfield.  The loss of this building occurred when MCCD got involved.  The policies, whether the real but non-existent "Formal Track" is involved or not, produced the same result.  The only difference here is that our tax dollars were not spent on the actually demolition.

This empty lot will now stand as an example of why the City's policies should be and indeed are being changed right now.
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: sheclown on December 09, 2010, 10:00:16 AM
Quote from: strider on December 09, 2010, 09:49:08 AM
The reason this area was "carved out" of the Historic District was to eliminate the property owners that did not want to be part of the historic district and had the power to perhaps prevent the area from gaining that designation.  I have also been told that the overlay could be used to require that the property owners in the excluded zones follow the guidelines anyway, but as they can not get the benefits, that is perhaps not really enforceable in the end.  It wasn't in this case.

The owner, whether you like her or not, did do the right thing by the building most of the time. It was reasonably secured the entire time I have been around Springfield.  The loss of this building occurred when MCCD got involved.  The policies, whether the real but non-existent "Formal Track" is involved or not, produced the same result.  The only difference here is that our tax dollars were not spent on the actually demolition.

This empty lot will now stand as an example of why the City's policies should be and indeed are being changed right now.

that's it in a nutshell.
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: iloveionia on December 09, 2010, 02:38:19 PM
A whole lot of people keeping busy and getting paid to tear down rather than preserve. 
Tisk, tisk, tisk. 
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: Timkin on December 10, 2010, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: iloveionia on December 09, 2010, 02:38:19 PM
A whole lot of people keeping busy and getting paid to tear down rather than preserve. 
Tisk, tisk, tisk. 

+1
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: nvrenuf on December 14, 2010, 04:53:47 PM
But iloveionia <sarcasm> it is always easier to kick down the sandcastle than to build it </sarcasm>.
Title: Re: A Pile of Pink Cinderblocks
Post by: iloveionia on December 14, 2010, 07:48:49 PM
^tell me about it.

but i think we squelched that pretty dang good.  but still lots of clean-up to do.
sigh.