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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Urban Neighborhoods => Springfield => Topic started by: sheclown on November 24, 2010, 05:22:09 PM

Title: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: sheclown on November 24, 2010, 05:22:09 PM
At the roundtable meeting, Elaine Lancaster mentioned three houses which will be demolished in the near future:

1630 Ionia (now gone), 445 East 7th Street (emergency demo) and 1524 Market Street (on the Formal Track for demolition.)

1630 was a burn out and although it could have been saved had it been adequately mothballed and monitored, two fires was more than this poor house could take.  It was too damaged to be reasonably saved.

445 East 7th Street was damaged when the fire hit the house next door.  This structure was restored previous to its damage and its loss will be sad.  It could have been saved with temporary bracing, but it does need significant work to make its exterior envelope secure.

1524 Market Street appears to be structurally sound.  

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/IMG_3184-1.jpg)

Although it is missing the southeast pier, it appears to my eyes that the pier was damaged when the porch was removed.  

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/IMG_3174-1.jpg)

There is significant structure remaining.  

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/IMG_3176-1.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/IMG_3183-1.jpg)

The house is not only sound but it is plumb as well.  Looking at the level which is placed against the house, it is well less than 1 inch out of plumb in the front and in the back.  I have also included pictures of the back of the building.

Included in this thread are the HPC minutes for this structure when it was given the go-head to demolish by the commissioners.  Testimony was given by code enforcement that the house was beginning to "teeter-tottering".  Louise DeSpain suggests that it go as an emergency demolition.

It is boarded.  It appears to be structurally sound.  
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: sheclown on November 24, 2010, 05:24:07 PM
That is plumb:

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/IMG_3177.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/IMG_3181.jpg)
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: sheclown on November 24, 2010, 05:30:36 PM
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/IMG_3179-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: sheclown on November 24, 2010, 05:41:12 PM
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/HPC1524Market1b001.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/sheclown/HPC1524Market2001.jpg)
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: ChriswUfGator on November 24, 2010, 06:26:51 PM
Elaine Lancaster is another COJ employee who has done more to destroy historic property than anyone.

Except perhaps SPAR.
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: heights unknown on November 24, 2010, 06:32:42 PM
I guess it's beyond salvageability and renovation. What a shame. Oh well.

"HU"
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: sheclown on November 24, 2010, 06:40:50 PM
I certainly don't think so.
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: CS Foltz on November 24, 2010, 06:42:49 PM
Candidate for mothballing maybe?
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: iloveionia on November 24, 2010, 06:46:25 PM
It is already "mothballed."
The 1st floor is completely secured.
The 2nd floor should be boarded though. 
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: peestandingup on November 24, 2010, 08:30:59 PM
Quote from: ChriswUfGator on November 24, 2010, 06:26:51 PM
Elaine Lancaster is another COJ employee who has done more to destroy historic property than anyone.

Except perhaps SPAR.

Yeah, I've spoken with her on the phone (just randomly inquiring about a few properties that had code issues & we're prob gonna be demoed) & she has a very "we're gonna do what we're gonna do" tone & attitude.
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: movedsouth on November 24, 2010, 11:39:42 PM
Does it anybody strike as odd that one of the reason for the urgency is that the building is about to be sold? Why not give the potential new owner a chance? This is sick :( But I bet this is WAY BETTER then having hearts painted on boards.
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: Coolyfett on November 25, 2010, 12:02:11 AM
When it comes down what will go up in its place.
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: iloveionia on November 25, 2010, 07:17:54 AM
Overgrown grass, that's what will go in it's place.
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: uptowngirl on November 25, 2010, 07:29:59 AM
Quote from: iloveionia on November 25, 2010, 07:17:54 AM
Overgrown grass, that's what will go in it's place.

And we have the pictures to prove that!
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: nvrenuf on November 25, 2010, 01:11:22 PM
So why not shore up the so-called collapsing piers and it could stand strong for another few generations to enjoy?
Title: Re: 1524 Market: It's Coming Down!
Post by: iloveionia on November 25, 2010, 08:45:05 PM
^MCCD will not do that. 
But someone needs to do it.