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Community => Transportation, Mass Transit & Infrastructure => Topic started by: Ocklawaha on October 15, 2007, 09:59:12 AM

Title: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: Ocklawaha on October 15, 2007, 09:59:12 AM
Anyone plan to go? Can we bring handouts? Do we have them?

QuotePublic Hearing(s) Bus Rapid Transit ââ,¬â€œ Tier One Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement

The Jacksonville Transportation Authority is hosting four public hearings for public review and comment on the Bus Rapid Transit System's Draft Tier One Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement (PEIS). The hearings will be from 4:30 to 7:30 p.m. with a formal presentation at 6 p.m. at the following dates and locations:

    Monday, October 15
    East Corridor
    Regency Square Regional Library
    9900 Regency Square Blvd.
    Jacksonville, FL 32225

    Tuesday, October 16
    Southeast Corridor
    FCCJ Deerwood Center
    9911 Old Baymeadows Road
    Jacksonville, FL 32256

    Wednesday, October 17
    North Corridor
    Gateway Mall-Stage (Near Bus Transfer Site)
    5258 Norwood Avenue
    Jacksonville, Fl 32208

    Thursday, October 18
    Southwest Corridor
    FCCJ Kent Campus
    3939 Roosevelt Boulevard
    Jacksonville, FL 32205

Meeting Format:

The meeting will be an open house where citizens can review materials, discuss the study with staff, and provide input regarding the study. A formal presentation will begin at 6 p.m., followed by a comment period. Copies of the Draft Tier One PEIS is available for review at the following locations

Thanks to Charles Hunter and Jax Out Loud for the heads up!

Ocklawaha
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: thelakelander on October 15, 2007, 10:04:07 AM
Wow, that was quick!
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: tufsu1 on October 15, 2007, 10:22:28 AM
just so you know, this study does not include the downtown BRT....that is a separate study

that said, I'm sure comments about the downtown part can still be made
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: big ben on October 15, 2007, 10:27:08 AM
are these meetings supposed to cover the same topic at each meeting?  i'm guessing it is that way, but i thought i'd ask.
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: thelakelander on October 15, 2007, 10:33:29 AM
No.  Each meeting covers a specific corridor.  The public meetings for the downtown segment have already happened.  Tonight's meeting will cover the route from downtown to Regency Mall. 
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: Ocklawaha on October 15, 2007, 10:56:53 AM
A Plan?

QuoteTonights meeting covers the downtown - Regency Route...

This is the ONLY route that makes any sense in the JTA plan, perhaps we should let them know that...


Ocklawaha
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: downtownparks on October 15, 2007, 11:19:44 AM
The North side Corridor up the middle of I-95 doesn't make any sense at all.

Use the nealy 90 Million bucks estimated for the northside BRT and impliment a combination S-Line rail with a Main St herritage trolley. They would have transfer stations at 12th and 45th, and would connect Panama Par /NorthShore by rail to Gateway mall, Downtown, Springfield, Durkeeville, Edward Waters College, and the Farmers Market
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: thelakelander on October 15, 2007, 11:26:43 AM
Quote from: Ocklawaha on October 15, 2007, 10:56:53 AM
A Plan?

QuoteTonights meeting covers the downtown - Regency Route...

This is the ONLY route that makes any sense in the JTA plan, perhaps we should let them know that...


Ocklawaha

Only if BRT lanes use the service lanes down the Arlington Expressway.  If the busway is elevated in the middle of the expressway (like reversable HOV lanes), then there's a lot of pork that can be trimmed off it as well.
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: Ocklawaha on October 15, 2007, 11:56:40 AM
Better to have said, "Support the route, hate the plan..."

Ocklawaha
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: big ben on October 16, 2007, 08:38:36 AM
what goes on before 6?  is it just a time for people to come in and review material before it starts?  4:30 seems a little early to me.
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: downtownparks on October 16, 2007, 08:48:25 AM
Ben, do you really think they want our input? They want us to fall into line, tell them what geniuses they are, and then allow them to start giving their contractor buddies three quarters of a billion dollars (even spread over 20 years is a TON of money).

Jacksonville is at a cross road. If we go BRT, its the same ole, same ole. If we go rail, we have finally turned that corner into becoming a nation and international city... Stay tuned.
Title: Re: JTA MEETINGS STRIKE AGAIN! FAST!
Post by: thelakelander on October 16, 2007, 09:20:09 AM
Quote from: big ben on October 16, 2007, 08:38:36 AM
what goes on before 6?  is it just a time for people to come in and review material before it starts?  4:30 seems a little early to me.

Normally a dog and pony show.  You can look at all the pretty pictures and charts on the wall and consultants are there to tell you why this is the greatest thing since the invention of sliced bread.  A presentation is held at 6pm to further prove to you that this is the greatest thing since sliced bread and why its a superior choice to any other form of transit out there, despite most of our peer cities selecting forms of rail as trunk lines, instead of BRT.  This is followed by a Q & A session and then you leave feeling confused, hopeless, dirty and abused.
Title: FOR JTA, RAIL IS A 4 LETTER WORD
Post by: Ocklawaha on October 16, 2007, 10:08:02 AM
QuoteThis is followed by a Q & A session and then you leave feeling confused, hopeless, dirty and abused.

That was pretty funny! LOL!

There is a entertainment value in watching the fear turn to terror as the conversation goes from bus to LRT...
They KNOW all about LRT, but sure don't want to talk about it! RAIL IS A 4 LETTER WORD!


Ocklawaha