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Title: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: thelakelander on November 18, 2010, 06:24:54 AM
(http://jacksonville.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/biz_north_point_town.jpg)

QuoteBy David Bauerlein
The $3.5 million building that will rise up from an abandoned piece of property at the junction of Moncrief Road and Myrtle Avenue won’t look anything like the surrounding northwest Jacksonville neighborhood.

That’s by design, said Paul Tutwiler, executive director of the Northwest Jacksonville Community Development Corp.

“It’s essential that we take a community built in the 1930s and 1940s into the 21st century, which is where we should be,” Tutwiler said Wednesday.

Tutwiler was joined Wednesday by Mayor John Peyton, Sheriff John Rutherford and City Council member E. Denise Lee for a “retail revitalization” ceremony touting upcoming construction of the North Point Town Center. He said the two-story, 10,600-square-foot building should be finished by the end of next summer.

The community development corporation, a nonprofit group that focuses on neighborhood turnaround, is taking on its first commercial development project after building 67 new homes in an area in which residents suffer high levels of unemployment. Over the years, commercial and retail activity has exited the neighborhood. But with new rooftops in place, Tutwiler said it’s time to focus on bringing back retail.

The city is giving financial assistance by using the Northwest Jacksonville Economic Development Fund. The city will loan $527,579 to the project and provide a $351,719 grant.

Other funding sources for the project are the Florida Community Loan Fund, U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development grants, the nonprofit group LISC Jacksonville, a U.S. Environmental Protection Agency program for brownfield redevelopment, and Wachovia, a Wells Fargo company.

full article: http://jacksonville.com/business/2010-11-17/story/north-point-town-center-bring-new-look-northwest-jacksonville
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: uptowngirl on November 18, 2010, 07:26:27 AM
I am happy for the neighborhood, they need this as does a lot of the NE and NW neighborhoods. I find it interesting that a neighborhood like Springfield cannot do something like this, they have more than "67 new rooftops" and a pretty strong base based on employment figures and household incomes, yet can't get anything opened up :-(
Title: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: Miss Fixit on November 18, 2010, 07:53:47 AM
There is no reason this couldn't be done in Springfield, except perhaps that the city and LISC are less likely to provide economic incentives.  Springfield is in the SAME Enterprise Zone, Empowerment Zone, and Brownfields area as are Northwest and East Jacksonville.

Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: tufsu1 on November 18, 2010, 07:58:47 AM
well let's see...the Springfield area just had Main Street and 8th Street reconstructed, 3rd & Main built, renovations to Darnell Cookman, and a new VA clinic coming in....seems like projects are hapening there!
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: Keith-N-Jax on November 18, 2010, 08:03:12 AM
Wow That does look very nice. Unlike Jacksonville to do something like this. Nice!!!!
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: thelakelander on November 18, 2010, 08:04:30 AM
Quote from: Miss Fixit on November 18, 2010, 07:53:47 AM
There is no reason this couldn't be done in Springfield, except perhaps that the city and LISC are less likely to provide economic incentives.  Springfield is in the SAME Enterprise Zone, Empowerment Zone, and Brownfields area as are Northwest and East Jacksonville.

^It can be done in Springfield.  However, it will be more financially challenging since property on Springfield's main corridors tend to be more expensive than similar properties in Moncrief.  It will also be more time consuming because of the extra layers of government and politics one would have to deal with.  The key is making the numbers work and finding someone to take on the risk of doing it.

Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: Coolyfett on November 18, 2010, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: uptowngirl on November 18, 2010, 07:26:27 AM
I am happy for the neighborhood, they need this as does a lot of the NE and NW neighborhoods. I find it interesting that a neighborhood like Springfield cannot do something like this, they have more than "67 new rooftops" and a pretty strong base based on employment figures and household incomes, yet can't get anything opened up :-(

Northside getting some Newness? I like the idea. I hope it changes the attitude of the people that live in the area...That Myrtle Moncreif X has potential in my opinion. I say buy up more property tre it down & GENTRIFY baby!! Clean that hood up. I like it.
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: Coolyfett on November 18, 2010, 11:41:07 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on November 18, 2010, 07:58:47 AM
well let's see...the Springfield area just had Main Street and 8th Street reconstructed, 3rd & Main built, renovations to Darnell Cookman, and a new VA clinic coming in....seems like projects are hapening there!

Yes you are right, but you have to respect the aggressiveness of the Uptowners. I do. You should see how people bash Springfield as a ghetto wasteland on City-Data.com....people are still not aware of the many changes going on out there.
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: duvaldude08 on November 18, 2010, 11:44:51 AM
This is great news! NW Jacksonville has been in despair for a very long time now. Hopefully his project brings a whole new POSITIVE energy to the area. Hopefully this will spur other face lifts in the area to atleast make it attractive.
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: dougskiles on January 05, 2011, 08:30:52 PM
I talked to Paul Tutwiler today about the project.  The building permit was approved today.  Vertical construction should start soon.

I've been fortunate to know and work with Paul for 5 years.  He has great vision and determination to improve the NW Jacksonville area.  He is always on the lookout for development projects, so it got me thinking about what opportunities there might be for him to do a TOD in NW Jacksonville - preferably one involving rail (light or conventional or Skyway) and not just BRT.  Any ideas, Ock, that we could share with him?

Here's another rendering of what his North Point project will look like:

(http://i52.tinypic.com/2ic05jq.jpg)
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: Non-RedNeck Westsider on January 05, 2011, 09:07:44 PM
Corrine Delivers, baby!
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: thelakelander on January 05, 2011, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: dougskiles on January 05, 2011, 08:30:52 PM
He is always on the lookout for development projects, so it got me thinking about what opportunities there might be for him to do a TOD in NW Jacksonville - preferably one involving rail (light or conventional or Skyway) and not just BRT.

BRT doesn't have a strong history in this country for spurring TOD.  However, the Northside is prime for TOD opportunities along the S-Line corridor for commuter rail.  This corridor runs from just west of the Prime Osborn to Gateway Mall.  TOD opportunities include the warehouse district/farmers market area along Beaver, Kings Road near EWC, Shands Jacksonville, Springfield warehouse district, Main Street, 21st Street and the Gateway Mall area.  After a few years of hitting JTA over the head with this city-owned rail ROW, they finally incorporated it into the commuter rail plans.  A starter segment (Prime Osborn to Zoo Parkway) is also included in the 2030 Mobility Plan's first CIE.

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/images/commuter_rail/s_line/S-Line-BRT-comparison.jpg)

QuoteKey:

Red Line - proposed BRT route through the Northside (this route has since been abandoned by JTA after catching MJ heat)

Green Line - S-Line right-of-way through the Northside

Blue/White Line - Skyway route through downtown

A common element with station spacing in all forms of mass transit, is the 1/4 mile rule.  All areas within a quarter mile of a transit stop (regardless of the form of transit) typically represent the highest probability of walk up ridership.  It's critical that stations are located within close proximity to major places of employment and dense residential bases.

Red circle - represents the 1/4 radius for stations planned along BRT's I-95 line.

Green circle - represents potential station locations along the S-Line.

Light Blue - Transit Oriented Developments were an afterthought in the planning of BRT's north corridor.  However, the S-Line's path would take transit in areas ripe for large scale transit oriented and adjacent developments, which in turn help increase ridership and bring economic stability to the neighborhoods surrounding them.

more detail on sites shown on image: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2007-feb-move-over-billion-dollar-bus-its-s-line-time
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: dougskiles on January 06, 2011, 03:43:09 PM
Thanks.  I will share this with Paul the next time I see him.  I believe his area is a little farther north and west, however.

Is there any progress being made with the 'S' line for passenger rail?  I assume this would be 'commuter' rail?  Is it part of the Mobility Plan?
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: thelakelander on January 06, 2011, 05:39:18 PM
Yes, the S-Line is a part of the north commuter rail corridor and is included in the mobility plan as a priority project in the initial 10-year CIE.

What are Paul's CDC's boundaries? The S-Line is as close as it gets for rail but JTA's modified BRT corridor goes down Lem Turner Road.

(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/photos/thumbs/lrg-7841-brt-north-corridor-a.jpg)

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2009-jan-touring-the-northside-brt-north-corridor-photo-tour
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: Ocklawaha on January 06, 2011, 06:20:22 PM
Quote from: dougskiles on January 05, 2011, 08:30:52 PM
I've been fortunate to know and work with Paul for 5 years.  He has great vision and determination to improve the NW Jacksonville area.  He is always on the lookout for development projects, so it got me thinking about what opportunities there might be for him to do a TOD in NW Jacksonville - preferably one involving rail (light or conventional or Skyway) and not just BRT.  Any ideas, Ock, that we could share with him?



*NORTHSIDE

(http://www.apartmentwiz.com/images/houston_warehouse_district_apartments/211_houston_warehouse_district_apartments_1.jpg)

I would suggest that a mixed use development that would recycle a fairly large group of old warehouses at Liberty Street Station (#9 on the map above) would be a can't miss deal.

Likewise, anything in the square bordered by Carlton - Higbee/Brentwood - Norwood - 44Th Street's that encompassed the rail (which I suspect will end up being light rail) would be a clear winner too.

Anything between Busch and Clark road that bordered on I-95 and the railroad/Main Street will get a huge boost from Commuter Rail. Absolutely win-win for the developer, the city and the citizens... Hey and give me a call I might want to buy a condo!

In other area's



*WESTSIDE

(http://www.soundtransit.org/Images/working/rel/tod_SMS.jpg)
Look at Roosevelt between Collins Road and Ortega Hills, or Timuquana Road, and bordering the CSX/Commuter Rail and a possible AMTRAK station, again combined with mixed use. A walkable, condensed, afordable Nocatee.



*FAR WEST

(http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/travel/rail/images/mars-exterior.jpg)
Maclenny, Baldwin and several locales in between downtown and the Little St Marys River have some excellent sites for TOD.



*SOUTHSIDE

(http://www.keystonerestoration.com/images/Seaboard_Air_Railroad_SF98.jpg)
San Marco area, Atlantic and the FLORIDA EAST COAST, with provision for a multi-modal center. I'd focus this on a mix of professional space and boutique shopping with residential above. I'd also go with an "Old San Jose" theme, and push JTA-and/or-AMTRAK to do the same for a South Jacksonville Station. Mission style stations abound in the southwest and throughout Florida, but NOTHING ever in our area. For more views google "railroad station," Boca Raton, Naples, Everglades City


OCKLAWAHA
'Hey, you asked for it...'
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: Garden guy on January 18, 2011, 07:58:18 AM
I'd just hate to see a billion dollar area be ruined by the neighbors...i hope security budges are paid and ready.
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: Captain Zissou on January 18, 2011, 08:58:22 AM
Quote from: Garden guy on January 18, 2011, 07:58:18 AM
I'd just hate to see a billion dollar area be ruined by the neighbors...i hope security budges are paid and ready.

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Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: vicupstate on January 18, 2011, 12:29:22 PM
Does the developer have any signed leases?
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: JaxJersey-licious on April 03, 2016, 07:34:30 PM
It's been 5 years since this much ballyhooed project opened. Any opinions of it now? Is it close to fully leased? Is there a good mix of businesses? And has it made any impact in the community as far as encouraging any additional investment in the area?
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: thelakelander on April 03, 2016, 09:34:21 PM
From an article in today's paper:

QuoteSince the Better Jacksonville's Plan's infusion of money in 2001, the city has approved about 50 projects in northwest Jacksonville, using a combination of grants and loans that typically are "gap financing" for what private investment would not cover.

Among the successful projects are the Third & Main development that brought residences and the popular Uptown Kitchen & Bar to Springfield; the No More Homeless Pets shelter that expanded its low-cost veterinarian service to a second northwest Jacksonville location; and the farmer's market on Beaver Street that enlarged its space for vendors selling fresh fruits and vegetables in an area with a shortage of groceries.

The Moncrief Plaza shopping center and the North Point Town Center, located a few blocks from each other, brought retail, restaurants and a children's dental clinic to the 32209 ZIP code, which U.S. Census dates shows is one of the worst in Florida for employment.

But some projects have fallen short. The planned $30 million HOPE Plaza, located off Interstate 95 on the Northside, received $3 million from the city in 2001. The property went to foreclosure auction in 2014 when a private investment company filed suit in connection with its loan for the project.

The Shoppes at Norwood — a Soutel Drive shopping center that got an $877,429 loan and a $584,952 grant from the city — likewise went to foreclosure auction when the private investor filed suit. The city went to court in July 2015 to seek repayment by the developers for the city's loan.

Full article: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2016-04-02/story/city-wants-jobs-northwest-jacksonville-taxpayer-investment-barbecue?utm_source=homepage_recommendations&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=cxense&cx_navSource=hptrending#cxrecs_s
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: RattlerGator on April 04, 2016, 07:22:04 AM
So, Ennis, in response to these questions from JaxJersey-licious (Is there a good mix of businesses? And has it made any impact in the community as far as encouraging any additional investment in the area?) -- seems as though the answer is trending toward no, correct?

A children's dental clinic ? ? ?
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: thelakelander on April 04, 2016, 07:47:37 AM
I don't know. I can't say. I haven't checked it out since it opened.
Title: Re: North Point Town Center to bring new look to Northwest Jacksonville
Post by: JaxJersey-licious on April 04, 2016, 11:22:13 AM
Yeah, I saw article about that and saw it was a successful project, but I remember there was so much hope what it possibly do for the neighborhood back then and I'd like to hear input from the area how it's affected it or not.

Having worked in the area from time to time and having family that resided there, I've always had a soft spot for that quadrant of town. Was delighted that the old Gateway Mall area now had a decent sporting goods store and a gym along with the always hopping Publix but if other long neglected pockets of town can get a catch of any spark from a new project then even better.