St. Johns Town Center II Photo Update
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Phase 2 is supposed to open this month. Here's where things stand as of October 6, 2007.
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It's too bad these stores aren't going downtown instead.
it's almost getting big enough that they need a people-move of some sort. otherwise, they're going to have people parking at one end and driving to the other and backing up their parking-lot traffic. perhaps a rail-trolley could be useful.
The Louisiana Boardwalk shopping center in Shreveport, less than half the size of the St. Johns Town Center, includes a small streetcar line to run shoppers from one end to the other. Anyway, I can't see why Ben Carter would pay for such a thing when shoppers will just drive from one end of the center to the other if they don't want to walk.
(http://www.metrojacksonville.com/images/louisiana_boardwalk/Louisiana-Boardwalk-3.jpg)
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/274/119/
Quote from: thelakelander on October 08, 2007, 10:55:51 AM
The Louisiana Boardwalk shopping center in Shreveport, less than half the size of the St. Johns Town Center, includes a small streetcar line to run shoppers from one end to the other. Anyway, I can't see why Ben Carter would pay for such a thing when shoppers will just drive from one end of the center to the other if they don't want to walk.
they would take it if it were free and easier than driving. i'd definitely take it, but i like to leave my car behind when i go anywhere.
Something like the pic above would be awesome and get a lot of use. But it won't happen.
It won't happen because it would cost the developer money. There aren't many of them in the business of losing money.
Quote from: thelakelander on October 08, 2007, 11:43:10 AM
It won't happen because it would cost the developer money. There aren't many of them in the business of losing money.
if only the business of losing money made money, then everyone would be doing it.
That is where city planners would step in and require some sort of transit option for developments of that scale. Eventually that plan can be enlarged to connect other points of interest via a regional transportation system. A little vison, that's all it takes.
When does Phase 2 officially open for business? I know the word was October, but that is here and it doesnt look ready to me. Anyone know?
I'd imagine the rain has set them back a week or two. My guess would be mid November.
October 26th has been the Grand Opening date for a little while, but it doesn't look like all of the stores will be ready. I know urban outfitters, abercrombie, and a couple others will for sure be open on the 26th.
Quote from: willydenn on October 08, 2007, 10:35:09 AM
It's too bad these stores aren't going downtown instead.
Wow, what a surprise that someone went there; Everytime something is not built in DT, it's a blight in this city; Gotcha. Hey guys, I'm back, and I'm ready to raise some hell ;D
Welcome back I-10.
any clue as to why some of the buildings in those pictures appear to have a second story?
Quote from: thelakelander on October 08, 2007, 10:55:51 AM
Anyway, I can't see why Ben Carter would pay for such a thing when shoppers will just drive from one end of the center to the other if they don't want to walk.
Isn't part of the draw of SJTC 'luxury'? I would think being taken from place to place would fit in with the theme of the mall. Regardless, I agree they wouldn't pay for it and even if they wanted to, I doubt they would take up road space to lay tracks.
Yay! I'm so excited that a Louis Vuitton is coming to Jacksonville, I have waited sooo long for this. I actually feel like Jacksonville is moving up now!!! But a Kitson in Jacksonville would be nice too!
Quote from: hightowerlover on October 09, 2007, 03:53:05 PM
any clue as to why some of the buildings in those pictures appear to have a second story?
Maybe to blend in with phaseIII when the upscale department stores are built.
Quote from: hightowerlover on October 09, 2007, 03:53:05 PM
any clue as to why some of the buildings in those pictures appear to have a second story?
It looks like the building in picture 3 will actually have two floors of retail. Many of the buildings are two stories tall but only have shopping on the first, but I don't think this one is that way.
Some of the larger Pottery Barn stores, Crate and Barrell stores do have two and three stores. I doubt this will be the case the SJTC. It's probably more for looks than anything.
looks like our tenant list beat the TU by a few weeks. A few of these stores were mentioned on the forums over a month ago (Aerie, Metropark).
QuoteNew phase at St. Johns Town Center: The wait is almost over
By DIANA MIDDLETON, The Times-Union
The St. Johns Town Center's second phase is still under construction, but shoppers' wait for the slew of new shops will be over within just a few weeks.
Representatives from Simon Properties released a full list of the phase's retailers for the final phase Wednesday. Most of the tenants have been reported by the Times-Union, but there are a few new names in the mix, including:
- Juicy Couture, a celebrity favorite known for its terry cloth track suits
- Aerie, an offshoot of teen retailer American Eagle
- Lululemon, an athletic wear shop
- True Religion, an upscale denim retailer
- Metropark, a trendy youth-oriented shop
The Times-Union also got a sneak peek at the construction of new phase Wednesday morning. For photos and a full list of retailers, pick up a copy of the Times-Union tomorrow.
diana.middleton@jacksonville.com,
9904) 359-4404
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/101007/bus_206990098.shtml
QuoteThe Times-Union also got a sneak peek at the construction of new phase Wednesday morning. For photos and a full list of retailers, pick up a copy of the Times-Union tomorrow.
... or just log on to Metrojacksonville.com and save the 35 cents
The TU is only 35 cents?
That's how long its been since I bought a paper :D
They are only 25 cents in Gainesville, 50 on Sunday :D
Actually, the Times Union is 50 cents.
How many of these stores are still at St Johns Center?
Quote from: big ben on October 08, 2007, 10:45:24 AM
it's almost getting big enough that they need a people-move of some sort. otherwise, they're going to have people parking at one end and driving to the other and backing up their parking-lot traffic. perhaps a rail-trolley could be useful.
A cool monorail would be awesome!! Trolleys are....well I dont see why people like those things....I like the futuristic modern vehicles better.
Practically all with more stores continuously coming in. SJTC isn't really suffering. In another economic boom/population boom it could easily handle an additional Neiman Marcus/Nordstrom combo with smaller chain retailers like Burberry, Gucci, Marmi, Intermix, Theory, Barney's Co-op, etc and more condos and a high end hotel. That was the plan for the next phase, which will undoubtedly happen sometime, probably sooner rather than later.
While incomes have risen over the past decade and population has grown significantly, more and more [dumb] people are placing higher importance on fashion/partying. In Atlanta even though times are tough your average club goer and Lenox Mall shopper undoubtedly does not hold a good salary job, so like suburbanites are willing to pay a higher percentage of their income for transportation, these young people are willing to spend all of their hourly wages on overpriced glasses, designer tees, $20 cover charges, and $300 7 For All Mankind wayyy overpriced shirts and jeans. The same is true in Jax, but in Jax it seems like there are more shoppers that can legitimately afford this stuff at SJTC than at Lenox (where I worked so I know).
Just go to Miami. There are like 5 Neiman Marcuses within a 10 mile range and all the other associated stores. Sure there are a ton of rich people down there, but there is a huuggggee population of guido/Chonga types who don't make a lot but are willing to go into high high debt over fashion and cars and stuff. It's utter stupidity. I know some rich people here in Jax (names won't be mentioned but let's just say it's a wife of a Civic Council person who is friends with my poor mother) who only buys good lookalikes and rarely ever the real thing. She could easily afford to buy out an entire store, but doesn't even shop there.
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 22, 2010, 11:03:09 AM
How many of these stores are still at St Johns Center?
Almost all of them.
simms3, your (most recent) post is basically what i think every time anyöne mentions SJTC--it's absurd, it's stupid, and maybe (just maybe) if people spent their money alittle more wisely, so many ov us wouldn't be in the trouble we're in economically.
I read that CompUSA is setting up out there soon. Beside Apple & RadioShack? Any other electronic retailers there. Microsoft Stores are starting to pop up in major cities, Im sure Google Store is not too far behind. Interesting if Sony Style, Microsoft & Google were at SJTC I wonder how Radio Shack & CompUSA would do.
Quote from: KuroiKetsunoHana on October 22, 2010, 03:13:12 PM
simms3, your (most recent) post is basically what i think every time anyöne mentions SJTC--it's absurd, it's stupid, and maybe (just maybe) if people spent their money alittle more wisely, so many ov us wouldn't be in the trouble we're in economically.
You worried about people?? Thats a lose cause. You can be the spender or the seller or the saver the chioce is up to the individual. Right?
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 22, 2010, 03:20:17 PM
I read that CompUSA is setting up out there soon. Beside Apple & RadioShack? Any other electronic retailers there. Microsoft Stores are starting to pop up in major cities, Im sure Google Store is not too far behind. Interesting if Sony Style, Microsoft & Google were at SJTC I wonder how Radio Shack & CompUSA would do.
Best buy is there
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 22, 2010, 03:20:17 PM
I read that CompUSA is setting up out there soon.
already open.
Best Buy is actually across the street at the Markets...different developer
Quote from: tufsu1 on October 22, 2010, 09:14:29 PM
Quote from: Coolyfett on October 22, 2010, 03:20:17 PM
I read that CompUSA is setting up out there soon.
already open.
Best Buy is actually across the street at the Markets...different developer
The Markets? Thats a shopping plaza??