Sunni Radical Insurgency in Iraq. North of Country Overrun.

[ben says]

Bold Boy and Ben Says...if you don't mind...how old were you when Hussein invaded Kuwait?  How about 9/11/01?   Just curious.

And FH, I was opposed to pulling completely out of Iraq.  It was obvious then that the country would fall to jihadist extremist.  Most Americans don't understand the conflict that we are involved in.  You are being told that the "war" is over.  I am afraid that you will find that it is not.

Old enough.

BTW, that's entirely irrelevant. How old were you when the Civil War happened? WWI? I'm sure you have opinions...opinions based on facts...facts based on those events...etc

Or, are you trying to argue something alone the lines of: "weren't old enough to witness the event? Then your opinion is dead on arrival".....?

No.  The Germany/Japan model will not work in the Middle East. 

So...me thinks you know nothing about the current state of Okinawa.

[NotNow]

Bold Boy and Ben Says...if you don't mind...how old were you when Hussein invaded Kuwait?  How about 9/11/01?   Just curious.

And FH, I was opposed to pulling completely out of Iraq.  It was obvious then that the country would fall to jihadist extremist.  Most Americans don't understand the conflict that we are involved in.  You are being told that the "war" is over.  I am afraid that you will find that it is not.

Old enough.

BTW, that's entirely irrelevant. How old were you when the Civil War happened? WWI? I'm sure you have opinions...opinions based on facts...facts based on those events...etc

Or, are you trying to argue something alone the lines of: "weren't old enough to witness the event? Then your opinion is dead on arrival".....?

No.  The Germany/Japan model will not work in the Middle East. 

So...me thinks you know nothing about the current state of Okinawa.

OK, if you don't want to state your age, that's fine.  You appear to me to lack a sense of history.  A common fault of youth.  I am not sure what you are referring to in Okinawa.  It is part of Japan.  Are you referring to the lack of support for the US troop presence by some Okinawans? 

[JeffreyS]

No more troops.  Drone their asses or make them govern these towns they have taken over for a while but we have given enough blood for that country.  When we decided to pretend to look for WMD over there some of the boys who are now in uniform were 6 years old.  That country has nothing that is worth even one of our GIs.

[JeffreyS]

At this point Iraq needs to fight this fight and it looks like men are volunteering to do just that.

[NotNow]

Jeffrey,

Would you continue to send material support to Iraq?  Would you continue to send material support to ISIS in Syria?

[JeffreyS]

Yes

[NotNow]

Hmmm...so you would continue to arm BOTH sides.  So you support the creation of the Islamic State in Syria...and Iraq?  Or just Syria?  I hear that Obama is considering air strikes against ISIS in Iraq, would you support that involvement?  What should we do if, five years down the road, the ISIS caliphate attacks Israel, either alone or in concert with other Arab nations?  I'm just trying to get a feel for your idea of our relationship with the area.

[JeffreyS]

My priority would be Iraq and any supplies to ISIS would come with conditions. If the second part proves fruitless I am ok with dropping them.

[BridgeTroll]

It is too late.  The best we can do now is nothing.  Shortly... forces from Iran will stream across the border.  The ISIS and Shia forces will begin a meat grinder civil/religious war that will pale in comparison to Syria.

[NotNow]

It is too late.  The best we can do now is nothing.  Shortly... forces from Iran will stream across the border.  The ISIS and Shia forces will begin a meat grinder civil/religious war that will pale in comparison to Syria.

The Iranian Army has deployed into Iraq:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/iran-deploys-forces-to-fight-al-qaeda-inspired-militants-in-iraq-iranian-security-sources-1402592470

The US now faces the prospect of supporting the Iranian military with air strikes and/or material support.  The US is currently providing material support both to the Iraqi government and ISIS in Syria.   

[NotNow]

It is too late.  The best we can do now is nothing.  Shortly... forces from Iran will stream across the border.  The ISIS and Shia forces will begin a meat grinder civil/religious war that will pale in comparison to Syria.

And how exactly did this area destabilize again?

I heard it was a youtube video.

[Jameson]

Wow...

State Dept: Terrorist Group's Presence in Syria and Iraq 'Entirely Different Situations'

'There are different coalitions and different factions'

June 11, 2014 4:47 pm

In the view of the State Department, the actions of militant group the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) in Syria and Iraq are "entirely different situations."

At a briefing Wednesday, a reporter asked State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki to reconcile the United States' cautious position on intervening in Syria, where ISIL is active, with its recent declared support of Iraq in fighting ISIL. "But you're not making a distinction, are you, between the group's activities in Iraq and the group's activities in Syria? I mean, they're just as deadly to the Syrian people as the Iraqi people, and they're going back and forth across the border."

"Well," Psaki responded, "they're entirely different situations."

Psaki claimed that there have been "many different conflicting reports" about ISIL in Syria and Iraq, and "there are different coalitions and different factions."

"They claim to be one and the same," a reporter countered.

"But regardless," Psaki said, "any threat, any terrorist threat — there are many that unfortunately exist in that particular region — are of concern to us and that's why we are upping our focus on the changing threat — changing threats that we're facing today."

[Jameson]

[JeffreyS]

It is too late.  The best we can do now is nothing.  Shortly... forces from Iran will stream across the border.  The ISIS and Shia forces will begin a meat grinder civil/religious war that will pale in comparison to Syria.

I have a different take this is where Iraq learns what freedom takes. We can help air support and such like France helped the birth of our country.  Now can Iraq do it? most can't

However the ISIS is not built for the long haul they may be able to storm in but that is it unless they take Bagdad. 

[finehoe]