Is Riverside/Avondale Ready For Mellow Mushroom?

Started by Metro Jacksonville, April 26, 2012, 03:00:24 AM

MusicMan

Quote: :"They should open in a real dead spot....What about opening next to the John Gorrie condo's?"

While the John Gorrie is off to a very slow start, that area is not "dead." Unless you consider 13 Gypsies, Bold Bean, and Bakery Moderne ( plus all the other businesses in that lttle vintage commercial building)  to be "dead"
as well.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: JeffreyS on July 01, 2012, 09:05:44 AM
So with these Full parking lots you ran into I was wondering did anyone have to walk over a block to get to the Party?

I almost had to, but after circling the block for about 45 minutes, I finally found my spot next to the door.  I missed cake and ice cream, though.  :(
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JeffreyS

I really don't want to come off as argumentative but I have to ask. Why would you circle that long rather than park a block or two away?
Lenny Smash

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Quote from: JeffreyS on July 02, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
I really don't want to come off as argumentative but I have to ask. Why would you circle that long rather than park a block or two away?

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JeffreyS

Lenny Smash

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Quote from: JeffreyS on July 02, 2012, 11:25:58 AM
I was dropped on my head as a child.

:D  Did your mom later tell you she did it on purpose?  That was our last 'real' talk.   ;)
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BrooklynSouth

Quote from: MusicMan on July 01, 2012, 09:33:05 AM
Quote: :"They should open in a real dead spot....What about opening next to the John Gorrie condo's?"

While the John Gorrie is off to a very slow start, that area is not "dead." Unless you consider 13 Gypsies, Bold Bean, and Bakery Moderne ( plus all the other businesses in that lttle vintage commercial building)  to be "dead"
as well.

That's true. It's unfair to say the John Gorrie area is dead. I just got my jogging stroller tire fixed at Zen Cog for $11, which I though was an awesome price. But the Gorrie area would probably welcome development more eagerly than the Shoppes area.
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ben says

Quote from: BrooklynSouth on July 02, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: MusicMan on July 01, 2012, 09:33:05 AM
Quote: :"They should open in a real dead spot....What about opening next to the John Gorrie condo's?"

While the John Gorrie is off to a very slow start, that area is not "dead." Unless you consider 13 Gypsies, Bold Bean, and Bakery Moderne ( plus all the other businesses in that lttle vintage commercial building)  to be "dead"
as well.

That's true. It's unfair to say the John Gorrie area is dead. I just got my jogging stroller tire fixed at Zen Cog for $11, which I though was an awesome price. But the Gorrie area would probably welcome development more eagerly than the Shoppes area.

Yeah, they'd be more open to development in that area, but where exactly could a MM go? That strip is pretty much full...
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fieldafm

The real questions at this point are:

Why is the Avondale traffic study being held up?
What is RAP's position on the application (it was submitted at 220 seats, a net increase of 113 seats to the commercial area)?

fsujax

^^maybe there is no funding for the study and the planning department is running around trying to figure out how they are going to fund the study.

thelakelander

There's a block long strip for future infill development there (Stockton Street).  It was set aside as a part of the Gorrie project.  However, MM has already submitted their application for a project in Avondale.  I seriously doubt it can't be developed in Avondale under the current overlay.
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JeffreyS

Mellow Mushroom seems like a done deal.  My biggest worry with the new restrictions is that they make using existing historic building stock less attractive.
Lenny Smash

BridgeTroll

It would be very cool in the old Fuel space in 5 points... 8)
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Quote from: JeffreyS on July 02, 2012, 01:44:00 PM
Mellow Mushroom seems like a done deal.  My biggest worry with the new restrictions is that they make using existing historic building stock less attractive.

Define less attractive.

Beauty is in the eye and all that....  Don't you think the new renovations of the old building stock will be... beautiful?



Not meaning to pick on you, Jeffery, it's just that I'm in disgust with the whole situation and I don't see them (RAP, existing Merchant Assoc., Jim Love, etc...) making anything better - so backwards thinking.
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fieldafm

QuoteMy biggest worry with the new restrictions is that they make using existing historic building stock less attractive.

Mellow is not affected by the moratorium (the gas station has been purchased and the application has been submitted), but yes the legislation that may get voted on tonight does nothing to address the massive hole in the Overlay that encourages developers to tear down non-contributing structures (many built in the 1920s) to avoid parking requirements... and goes so far as to make it less attractive to use contributing strucutres for certain kinds of businesses even though current zoning laws do not (nor should) restrict their use.